Some doubts arose in our game this afternoon:
– One of the PCs is a vampire and the question is regarding its web. What if someone asks her to pay a debt and do X? Do they get entangled in the vampire’s web for requesting a favor and come out with a debt to the vampire even when they came to demand a prior debt to be paid? Do they get entangled in your web and debt you even if you Refuse to pay that debt? Does just the mere fact of asking qualify?
Or does it not apply because the favor is the payment for a debt, so you only get entangled in the vampire’s web when you come to ask with nothing to back you ??
– What if the vampire Puts a face to a name and gets a 10+? The NPC owes him a debt. Does that also mean the NPC is in her web?
– Can you Mislead, distract or trick someone into asking you something and thus entering your web and owing you 1 debt?
1. I think they don’t get entangled, because they’re calling in a marker that’s owed rather than a favor. Like, to give a somewhat silly example, the Vamp’s landlord doesn’t get entangled every time they ask for the month’s rent.
2. No. Everyone who enters your Web owes you a debt, but not everyone who owes you a debt enters your Web. They only get entangled when a move tells you they do.
3. Manipulating someone into owing you something seems in keeping with the spirit of the game, but it has to make sense with the fiction.
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James Etheridge
Regarding 1, that was my initial reasoning, but there is an explanation in the book saying someone who asks you for a favor enters your web and owe you 1 debt and then, if you help him, he owes you 1 more debt, thus ending with 2 debts + being part of your web.
I understand it is not exactly the same, because what I am asking is what if they come to ask for a favor empowered by some debt you previously owe them, but doubt arises in my mind after reading that paragraph in the book (it is in the Vamp playbook section of the US corebook, when expanding a little bit on the moves and how to play them).
We can settle it either way at our table, no big deal, but I’d like to know what was the original idea for these sort of situations Mark Diaz Truman Andrew Medeiros