What do people think, am I barking up the wrong tree or is this viable?

What do people think, am I barking up the wrong tree or is this viable?

What do people think, am I barking up the wrong tree or is this viable?

Originally shared by Gordon McDonald

I’m noodling about with something +barry martin inspired when we were over for dinner last weekend.

We got talking about Camarilla larping and apocalypse world as unrelated topics and an idea has started to percolate through.

What if we used Monsterhearts to run vampire the masquerade?

The politics in a vempire larp is petty and small and would actually really fit with the feel of Monsterhearts.

Instead of all characters using the vampire sheet, create new sheets for stereotypes within the setting like the Nosferatu Spymaster based off the ghost sheet or the toreador harpy based off the queen sheet.

Swap the sex move for a suitable Feed move instead.

Instead of home room you have the elysium and the prince and primogen take the place of the teachers as authority figures.

It would be a very distinct version of vtm. But it would work!

22 thoughts on “What do people think, am I barking up the wrong tree or is this viable?”

  1. I think the book talks about this at the end somewhere. “After high school” or so.

    The short answer is that it works in any setting where characters act like teenagers.

    Skin selection might be a problem in an all vampire game.

    Tommy Rayburn is working on a Vampire hack for Urban Shadows

  2. The idea would be to design more skins rather than just use the vampire skin.  Each skin based on a role/drive within the Prince’s court (Toreodor Harpy, Ventrue Manipulator, Brujah Firebrand etc) with it’s own problems and strengths.

    It does look like creating good skins is very hard, so it would probably be a lot of work. 

  5. You’d probably be better off with Urban Shadows or The Undying as starting points. I think someone did a full V:TM hack but I don’t know what it’s called.

  6. Paul Riddle’s undying is phenomenal. And as Tim Franzke mentioned, I do have a World of Darkness (VtM) pretty large scale add-on for Urban Shadows (AW hack that was just kickstartered.) I can post a link if anyone is interested.

  12. I am posting two things here.

    First, is the working document. Urban Shadow’s changed quite a bit between 1.1 and 2.1 (pre and post kick starter.)

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vAfokBManOfs96xyvhPB2q6P1lR3PrN1OGNmjkLoqk8/edit?usp=sharing

    The second, was my graphical document before the kickstarter. In future rules, I will have it nicely laid out like this, but without all of the US info.)

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Hhx1yXlz-OTDNiN05RQVpnU3M/view?usp=sharing

  13. The biggest conceptual hurdle is Playing To Find Out with World of Darkness’s Vampire. Unlike Minds Eye Theater, the GM is not allowed to set up a plot or take actions to maintain the status quo. So be prepared to see the Masquerade and the world’s sociopolitical structure collapse very quickly. Most players are going to play Blade or Zombieland instead of Only Lovers Left Alive, and your game should be ready to handle the resulting vampire apocalypse world. :)

  14. Tim, I have never had that issue…

    in none of my games. I have play tasted about a hundred games with my add on. What usually is happens is you get one rogue player, and the others due to fear of the masquerade being broken go and keep that payer in check.

  15. I was thinking of something similar a while back. Taking inspiration from V:tR to make a hack of Monsterhearts where everyone (well, all the PCs at least) were vampires. It wasn’t a direct conversion though, and I didn’t get very far. I should dust that thing off. 🙂

  16. Sorry if this derails the thread, but Tommy Rayburn​ Why do they fear breaking the Masquerade? Is it the way your moves are written, or because the players are following the rules of the other game? Have you got a link to your add on?

  18. I think of an approach used in Worlds in peril were you get your moves from two different sources. Basically you’ll have a clan card and a “role” card (harpy, prince, anarch…) with different moves

  19. Not sure I like that idea, I don’t think you need the flexibility if you are going to focus on the stereotypes (of which there are plenty in VTM).

    I don’t want to replicate V:TM, just promote the sort of politics and drama you would see in a vampire court when teens play immortal power houses 🙂

  20. Tim, link is above. Big caveat, this is a free add on to paid game that is in preorder. My first link above does have some of their older rules.

    I went with adding on to Urban Shadows because in knew I wanted to make more than vampire. I wanted full books for vampire, mage, werewolf, wraith (ended up using Orpheus,) hunter, slasher, demon and changeling.

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