Hey guys! Reaching out again since I always get great answers from you.
Our table recently got a new addition, The Fae! Played by a good friend of mine who right away started to work with the words of the NPCs and tricking me as a roleplayer into making promises with him through roleplay (well done player!).
He took the move “Words Are Wind”–and that got me thinking: ususally the moves puts the action into the players hands, but this seemed different.
If any of you have a Fae at their table who uses this, could you please help me out on when it gets into play?
Thanks! 🙂
(just theorizing, because Fae in my group didn’t have that move)
NPCs might be a bit reluctant to give solid promises. They can ask for promises in return (which is great because Fae have corruption move that makes them more corrupted if they break their promises), maybe Fae will need to convince/sway NPC to get solid promise sometimes.
It is also up to you and your player to decide if saying “I’ll do it” is it already a promise or does he need to say “I promise I’ll do it”. Obviously the same rules will apply to Fae corruption move 🙂
What more, remember that second part of Fae corruption move is that they cannot outright lie, so feel free to provoke situation when they need to lie or sometimes ask them on meta-level “are you lying now?” and hand out corruption as needed.
Fae in my group was usually getting like 2-4 corruption per session just due to lying.
Have fun 🙂
(just theorizing, because Fae in my group didn’t have that move)
NPCs might be a bit reluctant to give solid promises. They can ask for promises in return (which is great because Fae have corruption move that makes them more corrupted if they break their promises), maybe Fae will need to convince/sway NPC to get solid promise sometimes.
It is also up to you and your player to decide if saying “I’ll do it” is it already a promise or does he need to say “I promise I’ll do it”. Obviously the same rules will apply to Fae corruption move 🙂
What more, remember that second part of Fae corruption move is that they cannot outright lie, so feel free to provoke situation when they need to lie or sometimes ask them on meta-level “are you lying now?” and hand out corruption as needed.
Fae in my group was usually getting like 2-4 corruption per session just due to lying.
Have fun 🙂
Thanks Pawel Solowczuk! 🙂 Well the problem with the move is rather that the formulation “when somebody breaks a promise to you” makes it so we have to keep track of promises made and I have to decide when NPCs break promises.
It feels more wonky than other moves to me. But I might be very wrong ofc 🙂
Thanks Pawel Solowczuk! 🙂 Well the problem with the move is rather that the formulation “when somebody breaks a promise to you” makes it so we have to keep track of promises made and I have to decide when NPCs break promises.
It feels more wonky than other moves to me. But I might be very wrong ofc 🙂
You’re not wrong; actually a lot of people want Debts to be created by promises (as they often are in real life) rather than action, but you have to be extremely careful only to make the promise-arrow point one way (and only to do it for the Fae). It’s quite a bit of work. Remember, promises still don’t incur or create or relieve Debt.
You’re not wrong; actually a lot of people want Debts to be created by promises (as they often are in real life) rather than action, but you have to be extremely careful only to make the promise-arrow point one way (and only to do it for the Fae). It’s quite a bit of work. Remember, promises still don’t incur or create or relieve Debt.
“Sure, I’ll do it” isn’t neccesarily as strong a promise as “on my departed mothers gravestone, I’ll do it”.
I think intention has value as well, but then again being ‘clever’ has it’s rewards and potential troubles. Be a fan, it sounds like he tricked some … folks. Promises were made, but maybe people feel tricked? Maybe they feel manipulated? Maybe they take actions?
Ex:
Night club bouncer: “Sorry Mr. Change, you’re on the ‘no entry’-list.”
Godfather: “Mr. Change, it seem you were quite deceptive last time. Why should I hear you out now?”
——P.S. The player sounds awesome, be lucky they’re there.
“Sure, I’ll do it” isn’t neccesarily as strong a promise as “on my departed mothers gravestone, I’ll do it”.
I think intention has value as well, but then again being ‘clever’ has it’s rewards and potential troubles. Be a fan, it sounds like he tricked some … folks. Promises were made, but maybe people feel tricked? Maybe they feel manipulated? Maybe they take actions?
Ex:
Night club bouncer: “Sorry Mr. Change, you’re on the ‘no entry’-list.”
Godfather: “Mr. Change, it seem you were quite deceptive last time. Why should I hear you out now?”
——P.S. The player sounds awesome, be lucky they’re there.
Thanks Michael Esperum! I’m starting to realize it creates a situation where IF an NPC (or player) breaks a promise he’ll gain something from it. So I’m being a fan either way! 🙂
Thanks Michael Esperum! I’m starting to realize it creates a situation where IF an NPC (or player) breaks a promise he’ll gain something from it. So I’m being a fan either way! 🙂