I’m looking for a quote that I think was attributed to Vincent Baker on the topic of giving PCs something to build…

I’m looking for a quote that I think was attributed to Vincent Baker on the topic of giving PCs something to build…

I’m looking for a quote that I think was attributed to Vincent Baker on the topic of giving PCs something to build and fight for. Something along the lines of, “Give them the sun, make them fight for the moon”? Does this sound familiar to anyone? My Google-fu isn’t cutting it today.

6 thoughts on “I’m looking for a quote that I think was attributed to Vincent Baker on the topic of giving PCs something to build…”

  1. I think it’s a quote (actually a principle if I recall correctly) from  Gregor Vuga ‘s Saga of the Icelanders .

    But I’m not sure you’re talking about that… it seems too obvious to me :s

    Give them the sun, make them fight for the moon: To give them the sun means that every so often, you give them exactly what they wanted and more. Present them with unexpected riches or fortune, grant them their desires. Most of the time, however, make it hard for them. Make them fight for every little thing, complicate things, throw spanners in the works, present obstacles and twists. Don’t deny them, just make it difficult. To quote Vincent in Apocalypse World: “fuck with, not fuck over”. Saying “no” is boring and stops the action. Instead, say “yes, but…”, whenever you can.

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